Lisa Solod Warren

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SEPTEMBER 14, 2009 2:18PM

Reality Television and the Internet Have Turned Me Cynical

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Once upon a time, a little Pollyanna-ish I know, I actually believed that most people were decent, most people were inherently good, and most people when given the chance were kind.  I also believed in a) manners b) civility and c) generally good behavior in public and private.

 

Not that I assumed for a moment that I or anyone else was perfect or without flaws.  And not that I believed any of us were immune to the occasional meltdown, or even two-year-old-style tantrum.  And not that I assumed we didn’t all harbor unkind thoughts in our minds:  just that we didn’t always speak our minds, especially when we knew that what we might say would be mean or nasty or just plain for no good reason.  I am not talking about a political-correct kind of niceness that is insincere and shallow, but a deep down goodness that would ultimately rule the day.  And I am speaking about a public civility –even if one secretly wishes one could yell out in public.

 

I was raised on please and thank you.  On dressing for the occasion (and that meant every occasion), on decent but interesting conversation and on letting others talk rather than hogging the discourse.  I was raised to respect teachers and elders even if they didn’t always deserve it—especially as a young girl.  And even though my parents were difficult and downright horrible to their children at times  at least I learned which fork to eat my meal with and how to sit at a table and behave. I also, of course, had some wonderful learning experiences, most of which I took to heart.

 

I was also raised that men did not wear hats in restaurants, that none of us should talk with our mouths full (okay, occasionally I get so excited I forget that one) and that the customer is always right and is not to be treated as if he or she is an interruption of something else one would rather be doing, like talking on the phone to a friend or beau.

 

Alas. Of all of these quaint notions and more have I been disabused.

 

And most of my disillusionment is due to the reality of reality television and the immediacy of  the internet, both of which showcase the most horrific, ill-mannered, boorish, downright rude, and disgusting behavior of ordinary people every single moment of the day.

  

Once upon a time Jerry Springer was the epitome of bad taste.  But, those of us who still gave a damn could convince ourselves that he was an aberration, that his show’s guests were just ignorant trash of all colors who had no idea just how sad and horrible they were:  people not anything like us.  People who would do anything, say anything, just to get on television, even if they looked stupid and evil and cruel and downright ugly.

 

Then Springer-like clone shows sprang up.  Then “real life” shows with the men and women vying for fame or fortune or love or….who the hell knows?  And “tell all” (even if what you were telling was interesting to no one but yourself) was suddenly the new norm; no secrets allowed.

To top it off but the baddest, most selfish, most boorish behavior was the most rewarded.  Girls beating up girls, models attacking each other, chefs insulting their staffs, those are just some of what is on offer today, and that stuff seems mild at times.

 

The internet with the possibility (and probability for most, it seems)  of anonymity in which to cyber yell, scream, insult, castigate, and attack has made things all the worse.  Where once we wrote our words and they were published on paper and we might, if we were lucky received the occasional letter to the editor, signed, disagreeing with us; now our words are published online with instant comment buttons for the deranged among us to send out whatever vituperativeness they wish at just the click of a mouse.

 

We can all be assholes and no one even needs to know who or what we really are.  But those words hurt. They sting, they wound, the make me ache just reading them.  I see a story or an article that someone has put his heart and soul into and then I read the comments.  What I often find is that most of the commenters haven’t even really read the piece and certainly haven’t understood it.  They are disagreeing just to be disagreeable.  And they are very  very disagreeable with cursing, insults, derogatory remarks, threats….. pure nastiness to its very core.

 

I have come to realize, belatedly, because I really do hate to be a pessimist, that the majority of people in the world, and certainly here in the USA, are not nice, not kind, and not interested in anything or anyone but themselves.  They have no class, no manners, no sense of decorum, and not a smidgen of self respect. Joe Wilson is not an oddity.  He is the norm.

 

There are more bad guys than good guys, more black hats than white ones.

 

I find that very sad and extremely disheartening.

 

A couple of days ago a commenter on one of NPR’s talk shows did an exegesis of a phrase that rings out through all the reality programming on television.  He had clips of dozens and dozens of different people chanting a particular mantra.  What  is it?  I’m not here to make friends.  They said in loud clear voices, with a braggadocio that was mind-boggling.  Okay, you aren’t on television to make friends:  you want to win whatever the price on offer is.  But isn’t that obvious? Does general bad behavior have to be both telegraphed and boasted about?  Isn’t that awfulness writ large?  So far beyond the pale as it be completely ridiculous? 

 

Perhaps the end of people being decent to each other and even decent to themselves is over forever.  Perhaps everyone will, from now on, feel the need to expose themselves on television, to be rude and mean and ugly and nasty just for the hell of it; to wear shorts and flip flops to the theater because everyone else does, and to change their baby’s diapers on the table of a restaurant just because they can.  Perhaps there will no longer be a voice of reason among the pushers and the shovers and the shouters and the haters.  Perhaps the world as we thought we knew it, if we ever did, is over.  Perhaps people really DO only get their limited information from one source and believe heinous liars and gobble up garbage instead of truth as easily as they stuff fast food into their mouths.  Perhaps it is a waste of time to even try and be a decent human being.

 

But, of course, I don’t believe that for a moment because if I did, I would become as solipsistic and selfish as anyone else.  I could, I suppose, stop watching the news, and switch immediately from any show that offends me, but then I would be like the ostrich and we have enough of them as it is.  I use the internet, I listen to radio, I watch television, I read newspapers and magazines because I like to know what is going on, even if the news is bad.  But I comment in my own name and if I don’t have anything constructive to say I keep silent.  I say please and thank you, hold doors open for people, put my napkin in my lap, and dress up for synagogue.  I tip well and make eye contact and try not to make trouble just for the hell of it.  I do not always succeed in being completely well mannered and I do not suffer fools gladly.  Rather than try to inform the ignorant or change the unpleasant I am now much more ready to slip out of their company forever.

 

But I know that my cohorts and I are in a vastly shrinking minority. While I have long been of the opinion that too much exposure is both dangerous and, well, boring, what I  guess I hadn’t counted on, was how evilly used the  tools for the dissemination of information  could become and how widespread the disease they would cause

 

 All eyes that can still see anything clearly should now be turned to the decline of the human race. Before nuclear holocaust or global warming destroy us we’ll have already done ourselves in.

 

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In the end what really matters is that your friends are good people and you are too. You can control who you choose to be with and how you act. The rest is up for grabs but Don't believe everything you see on TV nor read on line.
It is not a question of believing, it is a question of watching behavior. I think it has completely deteriorated. My friends and I talk about this a lot. I wsh it were not true. I think we CAN tend our own backyard but eventually the weeds from all the rest take over.
Ugh. I don't do reality television (well, not the kind that's just regular schmoes being assholes to each other; I do watch Project Runway and Top Chef because those are competitions that involve actual skill) for precisely this reason. Those shows seem to exist solely to showcase our nastiest, basest, most selfish Lord-of-the-Flies side.

Ugh.
VR, I watch those shows, too, along with Mad Men and Fringe and others. What I am talking about, of course, is all the rest that I don't watch but which knowledge of filters into my consciousness by reading and seeing ads and the like. There ARE more of them than there are of us. It's sad but true.
I can't even do top chef. Hate seeing people being yelled at for whatever reason. If I was in boot camp I would probably punch a drill instructor in the face.
I would agree that just not watching or participating doesn't mean that the behaviour isn't more and more prevalent and accepted as normal.
Breakdown of civilization? Yeah, seems so.

Did you see Cartouches cousins post?
There has definitely been a vast dumbing-down and nastying-up of the media, particularly in television, and there are a lot of rude, vulgar people on the internet as well. I don't believe though that the garbage seen in reality TV or the kinds of vitriol and filth spewed by anonymous people online is a true representation of everyday life. TV is entertainment, nothing more, and though it is currently entertainment which largely sickens me, it's not the real world. I can't speak for what it's like where anybody else lives, but in my neck of the woods, the vast majority of people are friendly, courteous, and, on those occasions when it's possible to demonstrate it, kind to those around them. Are there haters and boors and crass people? Of course there are, there always have been, we can see them anywhere, but to extrapolate from what we see in the media that they're the majority is uneccesarily pessimistic. What I'm saying is, cheer up Lisa, it's not as bad as you think:)
I was a full-time cynic even before the advent of the internet and reality television.

Rated
I know, it is so depressing! And it just builds upon itself. We do seem to be more & more a nation of ill-behaving children drawing attention to ourselves with tantrums & bad behavior & obscenities. And the more this becomes accepted as "the norm," the more it becomes the norm. During all the televised town hall "meetings," we couldn't even turn on the news, it was too disheartening.

Anyway, you write really well about this -- Very eloquent rant!
I was raised the same way you have and I have been appalled as of late by, at the minimum, a lack of decorum and basic good manners. There are plenty of examples of this in the media: Joe Wilson, Kanya West (sp?), Serena Williams, Michael Jordan...just to name a few. I'm a big Survivor fan and in their promo ads, they keep showing this guy who lies about being in New Orleans during Katrina. He's just so pleased with himself for lying and that people believe it. This is CBS's hook for this show. It will be more disturbing if I watch it, yet I plan to. That's disturbing as well. Great piece!
Thanks Suz and Mary. At least there are some good guys left, but I think we are quickly being outnumbered. And no one really gives a damn but a few of us dinosaurs.
Interesting stuff, Lisa. I think about this subject often. It seems like it is the subject of the day lately. I wont try to persuade you, but hopefully this can console you a bit. I dont think most people are the bad type. I think they are a minority. I think most people are followers. I think most are afraid of exposing their views, and even afraid of forming ideas. I think the internet is a way that some of these people can say things from behind masks that they dream about saying, but never have otherwise. I dont even think all of the things they say are legitimate positions on their parts. They are searching for something to "feel" rather than something to think, or to express a thought. I think most people dont distinguish between the two. Most people feel more comfortable accessing their feelings than their minds. The common expressions for ideas are often filled with what one "feels" or what one "believes". Not everyone using anonymity is dishonest, but those who shout invective from anonymity as a rule, are just frauds. If they wont stand behind what they say, their words are worthless.
hmmmm... maybe what we need to do is pitch a Ms. Manners Reality Show... we can make it profitable and popular to say please and thank you... or at least make the uncouth walk the plank on TV...

:)
Bill, maybe you are right but it still make me sad. And surly, I LOVE your idea. Maybe some uncouths could learn some couth:)
What a great and timely post, Lisa. I for one share your sentiments. I simply can't watch reality shows because of the reasons you mentioned. I can't watch anything with that type of hateful format. I woke up the other evening and BIG Brother II was on the channel that I fell asleep watching. I was appalled that the show was on TV much less as popular as it is. WTFrick? Is this what we've become?
Call me old fashioned, but if someone treats me like that, I will get VERY old fashioned and.... uh, .. never mind. Anyway, it won't be pretty.

I will continue to respect others until that respect is no longer mutually extended. I am guilty of scouring a group with some colorful names, but I don't go after individuals because it's just plain bad manners. I prefer an exit strategy to a confrontation and will continue to live that way for no other reason than it is right and that's good enough for me.

Fortunately, there are still some fine and wonderful people out there, but they don't draw the attention that a raving lunatic does and the lunatics know it. Attention at any cost is not anything I will ever adhere myself to. And you my dear, are an exceptional human being and I appreciate you for that.

Now I have to go look up vituperativeness and solipsistic.
The decline of manners and civility is ongoing and disappointing. I like to think I have chosen the people who are a part of my life wisely. Sometimes, I am mistaken. Other times, I have been fooled. But then, there are people like yourself who give me hope. Well written, well said. Well rated. Hugs to you.
I would be pleased if you'd accept my congratulations on a brilliant piece of writing with which I totally agree. Thank you very much.
I agree with your basic premise. And this is very well written.

I also think that many of the people who are acting like there is no thing like civilized behavior are acting that way because they literally do not know any better. Where are their role models? We have to assume that their parents give a damn, that the schools care and that they get some moral grounding somewhere. The latter used to come in church and synagogue. Today most kids do not go to either.

It is for that reason that I think it will continue to get worse before it gets better. The dumbing down of America is in full swing and I do not see anything that is going to change that.

We had some of it even back when I was growing up. But I grew up dirt poor, was what you called "poor white trash," and yet I was not only taught manners, they were pounded into me. You said, Sir and Ma'am, thank you, excuse me, pardon me, I'm sorry, and can I help you?, and you respected your elders, even if there was nothing about them that was worth respecting. You were taught to be fair, to fight fair and to turn the other cheek, give people the benefit of the doubt.

But you were also taught that there was something called "sin," and that you were expected to do your best to avoid it, confess it when you fell into it, and not do it again.

There might not be more evil or bad people in the world today, but more people are acting that way than ever before. Sure, scratch them and you might find a nice person under that crud, but you shouldn't have to search for it. "What you see is what you get" is still not a bad first impression guideline.

Monte
Thanks for this well written post Lisa. I don't really consider it a rant, it's more like accurate, reasoned and polite analysis. I was raised the way you were Lis, as were our children. We can do what we can with how we carry ourselves, and how we influence those closest to us and in our families. One hopes that without trumpeting our own horns, the example will have an effect.

Do you remember how polite everyone was to each other on 9/12? I hope we don't have another tragedy to kick start a temporary return to civility.
I am heartened by all your comments, and thanks esp. Sally and Cartouche for your praise. I too surround myself by good and decent and intelligent people whenever posible and like to think I am far less easily fooled than I once was. Sometimes we can't help but be assaulted by the rest of the world, though, and it can be crushing. I raised my children in a way that seems to be quickly disappearing, although my daughter's friends are pretty aweseome. I see so many spoiled children, so many angry people, so much igrnorance. I want to shake all the haters and say: Consider the SOURCE when they get their "news" from other haters. How can it be so easy to let yourself be manipulated into being less than you can be? I can't figure that out.
narcissicism. not a pretty pictures. some psychologists think we're swimming in increasing amts of it. yeah reality shows bring out the narcissists like rotten meat brings out the flies.
I like your post, Lisa; it's thought provoking to say the least. I too was raised the way you were and appreciate people who are good inside and out. I suppose there's the notion of impulsivity, though, which is sort of coming at me right now as a possible "other side" to your argument. As an impulsive person myself, and one who can be a slave to honesty, I do understand the frustration that comes with a society that favors form over function. Some of us think out loud, and we are bound to make those transitional mistakes that for us are all too public. I use the word "transitional" to suggest that we are on our way to enlightenment on a particular subject--sometimes the path is only five minutes--but damn if our travels aren't filled with stupidity and rash overreaction. For all the world to see.

I've grown to appreciate the niceness of form (over function), and that's progress for someone who bemoaned the lack of attention to content. I used to emphasize honesty to my kids over politeness; real learning over grades; genuineness over all those glossy things like eye contact and pleases and thank yous. And you know what? I regret it. Not, of course, that I shouldn't have valued the things I did, just that I should have valued what I considered the superficial niceties more. My kids don't have the polish and confidence of the kids whose parents made public their value of civility, and I want it for them. Like I said, I've come to realize the value of form. Thanks for this lovely post.
First of all, Iamsurly is so funny!"maybe what we need to do is pitch a Ms. Manners Reality Show..." What an interesting idea. Lets do it!

Secondly, Lisa, you made me pause and think...thinking..............

You made me wince a bit with "I comment in my own name and if I don’t have anything constructive to say I keep silent." That isn't me----sigh.

I think about blowing my anonymity once in a while, but, alas, I will not. Why? Because the flavor du jour via Facebook, Myspace, OS and the like is all about the promo of MEMEME! and it's nausiating. I've never been an exhibitionist--I am distrustful of exhibitionism.

Also, I think part of me likes the fact that I slink onto OS (like a ghost) do some business and slink out again without any of my "friends" getting any the wiser. Granted, I don't really give a shit if my status gets blown open, but I don't feel inclined bust it arbitrarily--just because someone else thinks I aught to. I like my alternate persona. I own her; she's mine. She's a bit of a pariah, but that never hurt anybody. And, incidentally, there are plenty of bloggers around here who post garbage, spew garbage, and instigate garbage with their "real" name attached to the post. Visibility doesn't seem to aleviate the need to be a bitch (I say bitch, but I can think of at least one uber-bastard also)--granted, real world name branding helps a good bit in that department I 'spect.

One other note, and I have no real evidence to back this up, but I believe a good bit of this glorification of snark became prevailent in the 90's. I remember when all my conservative family began shouting--any political discussion became a shoutfest where who-talked-loudest-longest became the measure for success in argument. It's ignorant, probably due to Rush and talk radio, and (in my opinion) falling out of fashion as those bozos become increasingly marginalized.
Thank you for expressing these ideas so eloquently. I so agree with your thoughts about civility, and I can't stand reality TV shows, either so this really resonated with me.
You have a point, surly, although I don't find you snarky at all. And yes people do behave badly under their real names (hence reality television). This place, however, is among the most civil around. And, alas, I disagree that things are getting better. Rush and Beck and their ilk keep whipping up madness.....
I am completely with you. Lately, I've been thinking that Europe might be a better place for someone with my sensitivities and sensibilities (though I could be romanticizing). Case in point, and I know it is a minor thing, but I was at the fabric store yesterday and each time I passed by someone or had to walk in front of them I said "pardon me" yet not once was this simple manner returned. Someone bumped into me and didn't say a thing. My children have their issues but they always use their manners. I was not going to raise rude children. People remark how mannerly my children are, typically with more tone of shock then admiration and respect.

My personal life has been very stressful as of late and the conduct of our fellow citizens has added to my unhappiness in a big way. I try to just listen to NPR and watch Jim Lehrer but even those mature and measured broadcasts cannot filter out the hate and rudeness. It's appalling.

(((HUGS)))
"Perhaps the end of people being decent to each other and even decent to themselves is over forever."

for god's sake. people have not been decent to each other for almost all of human history. i think it speaks volumes that we're complaining about people using offensive words or exposing their genitals on tv. that's different.

have you ever thought about what it used to be like? one of the bible's heroes is a king who sent a man to war so he could marry his wife. thomas jefferson owned his wife's half sister just because she happened to be partly black!

people used to gather and cheer for witch burnings. then for lynchings.THAT was the norm. i'd much rather watch someone get insulted than set on fire.

what planet are you from? the world we have now is SOOOO much better than it was. i don't watch those shows because they upset me, but i would never look at them as anything other than a huge improvement over what we've been doing for centuries.
Uh-oh...did I miss more OS drama over the weekend?

In all seriousness, this is an important piece, stating facts which need to be faced head on. People HAVE lost their civility toward one another. People DO care more about shock value than personal respect.

If everyone reading this commits to modeling his or her best behavior, maybe the rest of the world will eventually follow our lead.

Thanks for this, Lisa.
"People HAVE lost their civility toward one another. People DO care more about shock value than personal respect."

no, i don't want to come be depressed with you guys.

i think it is really interesting to see conversations like this. why are you all so anxious to think things are so bad? i'm throwing an optimist party and i don't have any comments on that post at all. nothing. all the action is at the pity parties.

i don't think it's a coincidence.
Sorry Strangely, but death threats to the president, ugly shouting matches, ignorance passing for information, a rise in anti-Semitism and racism, girls fighting each for a million bucks and some guy, guys doing the same, people shooting off their mouths at any and every article a writers writes..... and all this as we are supposedly more civilized (ie., educated, informed, bla bla bla)... You won't convince me. Maybe people have always been mean to each other, but now we all hear it all the time. This is not a pity party but an article that speaks my truth. I am not interested in anyone feeling sorry for anyone else. What I AM interested in is people waking up a litte and realizing that stupidity and anger and self aggrandisement leads to a decline in everything we hold dear.
why are you convinced things are so awful?

as an example, you say racism is on the rise.
as compared to what?
i just read about george wallace's run for president in 72. it's enlightening:

"Wallace campaign aired TV ads with slogans such as "Do you want the black block electing your governor?" and circulated an ad showing a white girl surrounded by seven black boys, with the slogan "Wake Up Alabama! Blacks vow to take over Alabama."

we are NOT in a worse place now. that was only 37 years ago. that guy WON the primary and campaigned nationally. it astounds me when i think about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

we're a really paranoid country at the moment and i don't know why that is. everything is urgent and everything is dangerous. that's not healthy. i feel lucky to be alive now when i study history.

"What I AM interested in is people waking up a litte and realizing that stupidity and anger and self aggrandisement leads to a decline in everything we hold dear."

that i can agree with, but you've written a post that says you are cynical about this. i only commented because you and many of the commenters sound so hopeless. i am tired of hearing people predict the end of the world. it's not productive. but i believe you when you say you won't be convinced otherwise. and i'm sorry to hear that.
You would enjoy reading "The Closing of the American Mind" by Allan Bloom. I think the government should purchase 300,000,000 copies of "Miss Manners" and distribute them throughout the country.
Bravo, bravo, bravo from another dinosaur that's tired of the general lack of couth or consideration. Rated and favorited.
Thank you for writing this. It expresses so many things that I feel and have ranted aloud about. I don't watch hardly any TV any more with the exception of a few British mystery shows that I'm addicted to. The race to the bottom in our culture alternately depresses and enrages me. Reality TV is a big part of it, but so are the loss of manners and common courtesies, never mind basic civility and compassion for those less fortunate. Empathy is in short supply and TV is one of the big reasons, especially "Faux News."